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 CMC-inseam and binding width
Author: John 
Date:   12-07-04 14:21

CMC-- awhile back you have me some advice for the distance between my front and rear foot based on my 32" inseam. Do you remember what the distance should be ? 16"??? One of the inserts is striped on my rear set of holes and I had to move the rear foot out to a good hole, but it felt too wide and uncomfortable. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
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 Re: CMC-inseam and binding width
Author: ncermak 
Date:   12-07-04 14:51

I'm not CMC, but let me take a stab.

in Lieu of buying a new board, I'd suggest you move the front foot in the same direction, the same number of holes... then you just have to get used to riding in a different spot on the board (longer nose or shorter nose).

-NBC
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 Re: CMC-inseam and binding width
Author: PSR 
Date:   12-07-04 17:10

John, I'm CMC's coach, so this advice is on the up+up.. At a 32" inseam, you ought to be at least at 18" up to 20". I ride my plates wider than my softie setups (usually, though it'll vary on some boards), because of lift and cant, and the binding angles. I've go a 31" inseam, and my plates are setup in-around 19-1/2". Softies, I usually go for 18-3/4" to 19-1/4".
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 Re: CMC-inseam and binding width
Author: cmc 
Date:   12-07-04 20:20

32" inseam 19 3/4" stance width with lifts. If the bindings are run flat, tighten up the width a tad. If you use ski boots, tighten up the width a tad.

Coach, where have you been? Snow is good at Stratton. Im going tomorrow rain or shine.
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 Re: CMC-inseam and binding width
Author: D-Sub 
Date:   12-08-04 00:38

Curious since this is up...how much of a factor does height play in binding width?
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 Re: CMC-inseam and binding width
Author: kent 
Date:   12-08-04 00:44

Curt -

We miss you. That must suck "rain or shine" Are you serious? How about snow or shine? You need to visit Minnesnowta sometime....

Kent
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 Re: CMC-inseam and binding width
Author: PSR 
Date:   12-08-04 09:53

D-Sub, using the rider's inseam is more realistic than using their height, as some folk have body proportions that differ. One thing that used to drive me nuts was to see someone 6'-3" riding a Burton FP with a 17" stance. Knee Knock anyone? A rider that tall can't bend at the knees without putting 3/4 of their body mass Behind the rear binding.(I can think of a few PSIA/AASI Examiners that used to ride hardboots that way) That's simply inneffectual in trying to get low And put get good turn initiation. Opening up the stance allows for better fore-to-aft (and to the fore again) control, and also allows for deeper bending at the knees and ankles. Going Too Wide, where one fights with their boot cuffs is not good either. That's why CMC made note of lifts/cants, and stiffer ('ski', eek) boots being set a tad inboard of the stance he first referred. So, body type, and equipment choice factor in here, overall height is not necessarily the criteria to base stance on.
CMC,Stratton,I'm there on there weekends,but not riding the raceboards(or anything new;many rocks)just yet.I've been riding Okemo(better snow,sorry!)midweek.
Kent,it started as snow,but them damn Texans keep funnelling all that Hot Air up this way! 30mph warm winds today,temps in the low 40's-Chinooks winds are supposed to a Western Springtime event,not an Eastcoast Autumn thing.The wind took the 3" of snow overnight.
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 Re: CMC-inseam and binding width
Author: D-Sub 
Date:   12-08-04 12:55

thanks for the info!

is inseam just measure from..ahem...the taint area to the ground?
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 Re: CMC-inseam and binding width
Author: John 
Date:   12-08-04 14:27

Thanks CMC, PSR, and ncermak. I'm riding with Indy's and TD's. I know many are not fans, but that's what I have. I have a Donek and was surprised the threads stripped. Any easy way to fix it? It's a hole in one...I mean it's in 1 hole.

Thanks again 19 3/4" is what I used to be at it's all coming back to me.
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 Re: CMC-inseam and binding width
Author: PSR 
Date:   12-08-04 14:51

D-Sub,the inseam is the leg's length from crotch to ankle joint.
John, the best bet for that insert is to get a flat-end tap with M-6 x 1.0 threading, some light oil (a drop or two), and try to gently re-establish the threading. Keeping the tap totally perpendicular to the board's deck is important, or you'll cross-thread the insert. Also use very little effort on the tap while turning. Back out when you get resistance, and try again, striving for smooth turns. Epoxy,glass, etc., can get into inserts during pressing a board, also threadlock compounds on some screws can clog the threads. If you've actually cross-threaded a bolt into the insert, it may be very difficult to get clean and true threads again. Again,use a light touch in re-threading,as you can spin inserts within the board,whereupon you can't tighten or loosen anything.
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 Re: CMC-inseam and binding width
Author: ncermak 
Date:   12-08-04 15:42

curt and eric-

what is the formula that you guys are using to determine width based on inseam. I have always gone with shoulder width, but can see where that would, in my case be wrong (broad shoulder,s 29.5" inseam)

and what variations do tend towards from plates to softies?
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 Re: CMC-inseam and binding width
Author: D-Sub 
Date:   12-08-04 18:47

thanks PSR...

Ive never actually measured my inseam! Do I tuck the tape right up close to the family jewels? If so Im about 31.5"

my gf was 28"

who's got that formula y'all were talkin about? Ive always wondered how wide her stance should be in a softboot setup.
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 Re: CMC-inseam and binding width
Author: ncermak 
Date:   12-09-04 07:26

D- Sub-

you ever buy pants?

the length is your inseam...

-NBC
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 Re: CMC-inseam and binding width
Author: Mike T 
Date:   12-09-04 11:23

I've seen "the formula" somewhere and it was simply multiply the inseam by a decimal. Using CMC's math, 19.75 / 32 = 0.6171875... maybe round that to .62???

Hey CMC - have you ridden one of the "new batch" Madds yet? Do they ride just like the old ones? My 170 arrives today, can't wait to find out what you and others have been talking about all this time. Looks like some rain followed by a freeze at Mt Hood so I will really get to put it to the test!
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 Re: CMC-inseam and binding width
Author: D-Sub 
Date:   12-09-04 12:55

rainin on bachelor too! crap!
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 Re: CMC-inseam and binding width
Author: cmc 
Date:   12-09-04 15:53

The 170 rode just like the 'old' 170.
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 Re: CMC-inseam and binding width
Author: curious 
Date:   12-09-04 16:59

yeah, I buy pants, and I usually buy a 30. 32 is too long, and rarely see 31. My pants sag ever so slightly though:)

I already measured my inseam at 31.5...
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